ANDREW STROM: I got home from Papua New Guinea last night
to find that it was true what I had heard - that David Wilkerson had
been killed in a car crash and gone home to be with the Lord. Truly
a great man of God who will be sorely missed on this earth. One
of the few voices for Truth and Righteousness that had a global
reach in the modern church. We will miss you, David. Below is
his final Devotional that he sent out just before his death at age 79-
WHEN ALL MEANS FAIL-David Wilkerson (Apr 27).
To believe when all means fail is exceedingly pleasing to God and
is most acceptable. Jesus said to Thomas, “You have believed
because you have seen, but blessed are those that do believe
and have not seen” (John 20:29).
Blessed are those who believe when there is no evidence of an
answer to prayer—who trust beyond hope when all means have failed.
Someone has come to the place of hopelessness—the end of
hope—the end of all means. A loved one is facing death and
doctors give no hope. Death seems inevitable. Hope is gone. The
miracle prayed for is not happening.
That is when Satan’s hordes come to attack your mind with fear,
anger, overwhelming questions: “Where is your God now? You
prayed until you had no tears left. You fasted. You stood on
promises. You trusted.”
Blasphemous thoughts will be injected into your mind: “Prayer failed.
Faith failed. Don’t quit on God—just do not trust him anymore. It
doesn’t pay!”
Even questioning God’s existence will be injected into your mind.
These have been the devices of Satan for centuries. Some of the
godliest men and women who ever lived were under such demonic
attacks.
To those going through the valley and shadow of death, hear this
word: Weeping will last through some dark, awful nights—and in
that darkness you will soon hear the Father whisper, “I am with
you. I cannot tell you why right now, but one day it will all make
sense. You will see it was all part of my plan. It was no accident.
It was no failure on your part. Hold fast. Let me embrace you in
your hour of pain.”
Beloved, God has never failed to act but in goodness and love.
When all means fail—his love prevails. Hold fast to your faith.
Stand fast in his Word. There is no other hope in this world.
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Sunday, March 25, 2012
HOW the APOSTLES DIED
HOW the APOSTLES DIED
-According to both tradition and church history...
_1_ Matthew
Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia , killed by a sword wound.
_2_ Mark
Died in Alexandria , Egypt , after being dragged by horses through the
streets until he was dead.
_3_ Luke
Was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.
_4_ John
Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil during
a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was
miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines
on the prison island of Patmos. He wrote his prophetic
Book of Revelation on Patmos . The apostle John was later freed and
returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey. He died as an
old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.
_5_ Peter
He was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross. According to church
tradition it was because he told his tormentors that he
felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.
_6_ James the Just
The leader of the church in Jerusalem, was thrown over a hundred feet
down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple
when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that
he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller's club.
This
was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.*
_7_ James the Great
Son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a
lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader
of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem . The Roman
officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at
his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of
execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the
judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian.
_8_ Bartholomew
Also known as Nathaniel, was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed for our
Lord in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching
in Armenia where he was flayed to death by a whip.
_9_ Andrew
Was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras , Greece. After being
whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to
the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that,
when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these
words: 'I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has
been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.' He continued to
preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.
_10_ Thomas
Was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to
establish the church in the sub-continent.
_11_ Jude
Was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.
_12_ Matthias
The apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned
and then beheaded.
_13_ Paul
Was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D.
67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment, which
allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed
throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many
of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of
the New Testament.
Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed
minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the
apostles/disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith. "And ye
shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:"
"But he that endureth to the end shall be saved." - Matthew 10:22.
-Please comment on this topic at the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
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-According to both tradition and church history...
_1_ Matthew
Suffered martyrdom in Ethiopia , killed by a sword wound.
_2_ Mark
Died in Alexandria , Egypt , after being dragged by horses through the
streets until he was dead.
_3_ Luke
Was hanged in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching to the lost.
_4_ John
Faced martyrdom when he was boiled in huge basin of boiling oil during
a wave of persecution in Rome. However, he was
miraculously delivered from death. John was then sentenced to the mines
on the prison island of Patmos. He wrote his prophetic
Book of Revelation on Patmos . The apostle John was later freed and
returned to serve as Bishop of Edessa in modern Turkey. He died as an
old man, the only apostle to die peacefully.
_5_ Peter
He was crucified upside down on an x-shaped cross. According to church
tradition it was because he told his tormentors that he
felt unworthy to die in the same way that Jesus Christ had died.
_6_ James the Just
The leader of the church in Jerusalem, was thrown over a hundred feet
down from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple
when he refused to deny his faith in Christ. When they discovered that
he survived the fall, his enemies beat James to death with a fuller's club.
This
was the same pinnacle where Satan had taken Jesus during the Temptation.*
_7_ James the Great
Son of Zebedee, was a fisherman by trade when Jesus called him to a
lifetime of ministry. As a strong leader
of the church, James was ultimately beheaded at Jerusalem . The Roman
officer who guarded James watched amazed as James defended his faith at
his trial. Later, the officer walked beside James to the place of
execution. Overcome by conviction, he declared his new faith to the
judge and knelt beside James to accept beheading as a Christian.
_8_ Bartholomew
Also known as Nathaniel, was a missionary to Asia. He witnessed for our
Lord in present day Turkey. Bartholomew was martyred for his preaching
in Armenia where he was flayed to death by a whip.
_9_ Andrew
Was crucified on an x-shaped cross in Patras , Greece. After being
whipped severely by seven soldiers they tied his body to
the cross with cords to prolong his agony. His followers reported that,
when he was led toward the cross, Andrew saluted it in these
words: 'I have long desired and expected this happy hour. The cross has
been consecrated by the body of Christ hanging on it.' He continued to
preach to his tormentors for two days until he expired.
_10_ Thomas
Was stabbed with a spear in India during one of his missionary trips to
establish the church in the sub-continent.
_11_ Jude
Was killed with arrows when he refused to deny his faith in Christ.
_12_ Matthias
The apostle chosen to replace the traitor Judas Iscariot, was stoned
and then beheaded.
_13_ Paul
Was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D.
67. Paul endured a lengthy imprisonment, which
allowed him to write his many epistles to the churches he had formed
throughout the Roman Empire. These letters, which taught many
of the foundational doctrines of Christianity, form a large portion of
the New Testament.
Perhaps this is a reminder to us that our sufferings here are indeed
minor compared to the intense persecution and cold cruelty faced by the
apostles/disciples during their times for the sake of the Faith. "And ye
shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:"
"But he that endureth to the end shall be saved." - Matthew 10:22.
-Please comment on this topic at the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
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GOD’s POWERFUL ARMY
GOD’s POWERFUL ARMY
-by David Wilkerson.
Something very powerful and awesome is going on in the world today
—something beyond human comprehension—something that will
affect the whole world in these last days.
God is preparing a small but powerful army of Christians, the most
dedicated army on the face of the earth. The Lord will come forth to
command them to do exploits; He is going to close out the ages
with a pure, devoted, fearless remnant.
All my life I have heard stories about our godly forefathers who
hated sin. These men and women knew God’s voice and spent
hours, even days, in fasting and prayer. They prayed unceasingly
and had the power and ability to successfully stand up against
immorality in their day.
These forefathers have long since passed on. But God is in the
process of raising up another army and this time His warriors will
not be made up only of elderly, gray-haired fathers and mothers of
Zion. This new army will be composed of both new and seasoned
believers, both young and old, ordinary Christians who lay hold of
God! A whole new realm of ministry is about to come forth!
The denominational church system appears to be in the throes of
death. It has almost no influence in the secular world, no mighty
power in Christ. Some accuse me of being “hard” on pastors. But I
am in touch with many godly pastors who grieve as I do over the
backsliding in the ministry today. There is a holy remnant of godly
pastors in the land, and I thank God for every one of them. Yet, it
is still a fact that more and more ministers are racing down the
road of compromise.
The Bible warns that we are not to fret! God has a plan and it is
being manifested. It is put forth plainly in Scripture, mostly in the
first four chapters of First Samuel.
The prophet Samuel is a type of God’s last-days remnant. The
Lord chose him amid the worst of times and hid him away in
training until it was time to bring forth His new thing. God told
Samuel, “Behold, I will do something in Israel at which both ears
of everyone who hears it will tingle” (1 Samuel 3:11). What would
so amaze and startle all who heard it? It was the judgment of God
on the backslidden religious system and the raising up, training
and anointing of a new, holy remnant!
What God did in Samuel’s day, He does in every generation.
Indeed, in every generation there has been a remnant, a praying
people after His own heart.
BIRTH OF the LAST-DAYS REMNANT
The prophet Samuel is a type of the last-days holy remnant—a
prepared body of believers that rises out of the ruins of the old,
decadent church.
Hannah, Samuel’s mother, birthed her son through bitter tears and
much prayer. “And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed to the
Lord and wept in anguish” (1 Samuel 1:10).
Try to imagine the scene: Hannah was at the temple every day, on
her knees before the altar, crushed and broken because she was
childless. As she wept, her adversary—her husband’s other wife—
made fun of her. “And her rival also provoked her severely, to make
her miserable, because the Lord had closed her womb” (1 Samuel 1:6).
There are three important things I want to point out from this passage:
* First, the remnant that Samuel represents is born in grief and
intercession.
* Second, those who pray and grieve after God’s heart will be
provoked by adversaries.
* And third, God’s remnant is always going to be misunderstood!
Note what happened to Hannah as she prayed: “And it happened,
as she continued praying before the Lord, that Eli watched her
mouth. Now Hannah spoke in her heart; only her lips moved, but
her voice was not heard. Therefore Eli thought she was drunk. So
Eli said to her, ‘How long will you be drunk? Put your wine away
from you!’” (1 Samuel 1:12-14). Eli and his sons represent the
dying, corrupt church that has forsaken the Lord’s way. Eli was so
out of touch—so dead in his spirit—he thought Hannah was drunk!
When Hannah was praying, she was filled with grief, burdened for
the birth of a son. All she could do was move her lips because of
her groaning in the Spirit. She prayed, “If You will indeed look on
the affliction of Your maidservant and remember me, and . . . will
give Your maidservant a male child, then I will give him to the Lord
all the days of his life” (1 Samuel 1:11).
Here are two distinguishing marks of God’s holy remnant:
* They pray like Hannah. Their burden is deep and their heart is
stirred because of the wickedness in God’s house.
* Like Hannah, they give themselves to prayer every day of their lives.
God wants to make you like that. He wants you to be able to touch
Him and hear from Him. He wants to give you a ministry to others
who will come to you with their burdens and trials. And as you pray
for them, His Word will come forth!
-Please comment on this topic at the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
© 2011 World Challenge - a registered trademark of David Wilkerson.
-Original Sources-
http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/15700
http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/15702
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-by David Wilkerson.
Something very powerful and awesome is going on in the world today
—something beyond human comprehension—something that will
affect the whole world in these last days.
God is preparing a small but powerful army of Christians, the most
dedicated army on the face of the earth. The Lord will come forth to
command them to do exploits; He is going to close out the ages
with a pure, devoted, fearless remnant.
All my life I have heard stories about our godly forefathers who
hated sin. These men and women knew God’s voice and spent
hours, even days, in fasting and prayer. They prayed unceasingly
and had the power and ability to successfully stand up against
immorality in their day.
These forefathers have long since passed on. But God is in the
process of raising up another army and this time His warriors will
not be made up only of elderly, gray-haired fathers and mothers of
Zion. This new army will be composed of both new and seasoned
believers, both young and old, ordinary Christians who lay hold of
God! A whole new realm of ministry is about to come forth!
The denominational church system appears to be in the throes of
death. It has almost no influence in the secular world, no mighty
power in Christ. Some accuse me of being “hard” on pastors. But I
am in touch with many godly pastors who grieve as I do over the
backsliding in the ministry today. There is a holy remnant of godly
pastors in the land, and I thank God for every one of them. Yet, it
is still a fact that more and more ministers are racing down the
road of compromise.
The Bible warns that we are not to fret! God has a plan and it is
being manifested. It is put forth plainly in Scripture, mostly in the
first four chapters of First Samuel.
The prophet Samuel is a type of God’s last-days remnant. The
Lord chose him amid the worst of times and hid him away in
training until it was time to bring forth His new thing. God told
Samuel, “Behold, I will do something in Israel at which both ears
of everyone who hears it will tingle” (1 Samuel 3:11). What would
so amaze and startle all who heard it? It was the judgment of God
on the backslidden religious system and the raising up, training
and anointing of a new, holy remnant!
What God did in Samuel’s day, He does in every generation.
Indeed, in every generation there has been a remnant, a praying
people after His own heart.
BIRTH OF the LAST-DAYS REMNANT
The prophet Samuel is a type of the last-days holy remnant—a
prepared body of believers that rises out of the ruins of the old,
decadent church.
Hannah, Samuel’s mother, birthed her son through bitter tears and
much prayer. “And she was in bitterness of soul, and prayed to the
Lord and wept in anguish” (1 Samuel 1:10).
Try to imagine the scene: Hannah was at the temple every day, on
her knees before the altar, crushed and broken because she was
childless. As she wept, her adversary—her husband’s other wife—
made fun of her. “And her rival also provoked her severely, to make
her miserable, because the Lord had closed her womb” (1 Samuel 1:6).
There are three important things I want to point out from this passage:
* First, the remnant that Samuel represents is born in grief and
intercession.
* Second, those who pray and grieve after God’s heart will be
provoked by adversaries.
* And third, God’s remnant is always going to be misunderstood!
Note what happened to Hannah as she prayed: “And it happened,
as she continued praying before the Lord, that Eli watched her
mouth. Now Hannah spoke in her heart; only her lips moved, but
her voice was not heard. Therefore Eli thought she was drunk. So
Eli said to her, ‘How long will you be drunk? Put your wine away
from you!’” (1 Samuel 1:12-14). Eli and his sons represent the
dying, corrupt church that has forsaken the Lord’s way. Eli was so
out of touch—so dead in his spirit—he thought Hannah was drunk!
When Hannah was praying, she was filled with grief, burdened for
the birth of a son. All she could do was move her lips because of
her groaning in the Spirit. She prayed, “If You will indeed look on
the affliction of Your maidservant and remember me, and . . . will
give Your maidservant a male child, then I will give him to the Lord
all the days of his life” (1 Samuel 1:11).
Here are two distinguishing marks of God’s holy remnant:
* They pray like Hannah. Their burden is deep and their heart is
stirred because of the wickedness in God’s house.
* Like Hannah, they give themselves to prayer every day of their lives.
God wants to make you like that. He wants you to be able to touch
Him and hear from Him. He wants to give you a ministry to others
who will come to you with their burdens and trials. And as you pray
for them, His Word will come forth!
-Please comment on this topic at the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
© 2011 World Challenge - a registered trademark of David Wilkerson.
-Original Sources-
http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/15700
http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/15702
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What happens to people who have never heard the gospel?
What happens to people who have never heard the gospel?
I have a question regarding salvation. What do you believe happens to people who never get to hear the word of God, such as in remote places of the world? Also, what about people of other faiths that are not Christian but were brought up that way. If they were good people while here will they go to hell for choosing ot believe another religion? Does the Bible make any mention to this?
My response is in Green:This question comes up often. We need to look at several things. First there is no doubt that no one gets to heaven without going through Jesus Christ as He stated:
(John 14:6 NIV) Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
But we need to understand exactly what Jesus meant by that statement. Most people will say that unless a person knows Jesus Christ they cannot get to heaven. I am not sure that is 'exactly' what Jesus meant and I will try to show you why I say that.
To understand this point we must go back to the Old Testament. The question is this, how did the Old Testament people get to heaven? It could not have been that they knew Jesus, because He had not yet come to earth as a human being for them to know. So how were they saved? Many people would say they were saved by following the Law, until Jesus came and then everything changed. But is that what the Bible says? Let's look:
(Romans 3:28 NIV) For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
(Hebrews 11:4-19 NIV) [4] By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith he still speaks, even though he is dead.
[5] By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. [6] And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
[7] By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.
[8] By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. [9] By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. [10] For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.
[11] By faith Abraham, even though he was past age-and Sarah herself was barren-was enabled to become a father because he considered him faithful who had made the promise. [12] And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.
[13] All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. [14] People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. [15] If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. [16] Instead, they were longing for a better country-a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
[17] By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, [18] even though God had said to him, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned." [19] Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.
[5] By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. [6] And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.
[7] By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.
[8] By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. [9] By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. [10] For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.
[11] By faith Abraham, even though he was past age-and Sarah herself was barren-was enabled to become a father because he considered him faithful who had made the promise. [12] And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.
[13] All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. [14] People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. [15] If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. [16] Instead, they were longing for a better country-a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
[17] By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, [18] even though God had said to him, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned." [19] Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.
We today realize that we are not saved by following the Law, but rather we are saved by faith. Well the Old Testament Saints were saved by faith also. Our faith is in Jesus Christ, but their faith was in God. Faith that He would provide a Redeemer to take away their sins. Look at this quote from Job:
(Job 19:25-27 NIV) [25] I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end he will stand upon the earth.
[26] And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;
[27] I myself will see him with my own eyes—I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!
[26] And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;
[27] I myself will see him with my own eyes—I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!
Job had faith that his Redeemer existed and that He would one day stand upon the earth. In other words he had faith that God would send His perfect lamb to die for Job's sins. Even though these people did not know what Jesus' name was or was going to be, they still had faith and trusted God to redeem them. So they were saved just like we are today, by faith, not by works. Now the Law did have something to do with their salvation, but not in the way most people think. The people were attesting to their faith by following the Law that God commanded them to follow. If they had refused to follow the Law then they would have been saying they no longer had faith in God and no longer believed He would deliver them. I believe that is still true today. When a person goes back into sin and does not follow Christ they are in effect saying they no longer have faith in Him. But that is a different discussion.
That brings us back to today. We who have heard the gospel must either come to Christ or we are forever lost. But what about those who have never heard the gospel? Is there a way for them to be saved without knowing who Jesus is? We have already established that there was a way in the past, by following God and believing Him. But does that mean anything today?
First we must look at the question of whether a person can know God without hearing about Him from someone else:
(Romans 1:20 NIV) For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
We see that no one has an excuse. Now if no one has an excuse but yet not everyone has heard of Jesus Christ that would make me think that there is a way to do what the people in the Old Testament did, believe in God and serve Him, even without knowing who Jesus is. But we must look further.
(Romans 10:14-15 NIV) [14] How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? [15] And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"
Now this passage would seem to say that people can't believe unless they have heard. It is in the very same letter to the Romans as the first passage I quoted. Is Paul having trouble figuring out which is true? No, the problem is our understanding of what is being said. We need to keep digging.
Paul goes on to quote from the Old Testament:
(Romans 15:21 NIV) Rather, as it is written: "Those who were not told about him will see, and those who have not heard will understand."
Many people also try to claim that God had no salvation plan for anyone in the Old Testament other than the Israelites, but that is not true either. The whole story of Jonah was about God sending him to preach to Nineveh. Why didn't Jonah want to go preach to them?
(Jonah 4:1-3 NIV) [1] But Jonah was greatly displeased and became angry. [2] He prayed to the LORD, "O LORD, is this not what I said when I was still at home? That is why I was so quick to flee to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. [3] Now, O LORD, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live."
He didn't want to preach to them because he knew God would forgive them if they repented. What kind of message did Jonah preach to them finally?
(Jonah 3:4-5 (NIV) [4] On the first day, Jonah started into the city. He proclaimed: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned." [5] The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth.
He didn't preach a message of repentance, he just told them they were going to die, yet they "believed God" and repented. What did God do? He did not destroy them. My point is that Jonah did not give them the Law, he did not tell them what they could do to be saved, he just preached that God was going to destroy them. He did not even tell them there was a God, other than in saying that Nineveh would be destroyed.
You might be asking, what does any of that have to do with people today? Well I believe that God is still sending His message around the world. Maybe not in physical form like Jonah, but in a way that the people understand. That brings up a very good book on the subject; Eternity in Their Hearts by Don Richardson. In the book the author tells the stories of many different peoples who have had God's witness. I can't remember specifics off the top of my head, but I can give you a couple of examples.
A missionary visited a tribe up in the mountains of a remote region of Asia near India. The missionary was a white man and the tribes people were dark brown. They had been isolated and had never seen a white man before. The missionary hired another native from a surrounding village to lead him to this tribe. When he arrived the villagers got very excited. When he asked the guide to tell him what was happening he was told that they wanted to know if he was the one who was going to give them "the Book?" He asked what book they were talking about and he heard a story that gave him goose bumps.
The villagers had handed down from generation to generation the legend that one day a white man (remember they had never seen a white man before) would come and give them a book which would tell them how to be reconciled to God. Now they had another name for God, which I can't remember right now, but their legend said that they used to know God, but had become separated from Him and needed someone to help them gain that relationship back again. For generations they had had faith that one day God would send a white man to them with a book that would explain what they had to do to be reconciled with God. Of course the missionary showed them the Bible and taught them about Jesus Christ.
Now here is the question. What happened to those who died before this missionary arrived to give them the gospel? Remember how the Old Testament Saints were saved; by having faith in God to send a redeemer to reconcile them to Him. Isn't that what these people had faith in too, even if it was stated a little differently?
The book has many stories of isolated tribes of people who had legends pertaining to God, and which they followed generation after generation. Now I am not trying to say or teach that there are multiple ways to God, there is only One way and that is through Jesus Christ who died for our sins. However, I am saying that I believe that God is merciful and just and compassionate and will judge people on what they do know and not what they don't or can't know.
I have tried to show that the Old Testament Saints were saved by faith in God, even though they did not know who Jesus Christ was and had not heard the gospel as we know it. And I believe that model shows that people can trust God and place their faith in Him, even if they have not heard the gospel. But how does that square with this statement from Jesus?
(John 14:6 NIV) Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
As I said I believe that verse too. Let's look at the Temple in Jesus' day. There was a section called the Holy of Holies. This was where the ark of the covenant was and on the ark was the mercy seat where God's glory rested. This area was off limits to everyone except the High Priest and he could only go into it once a year with a sacrifice. No one else was allowed into the presence of God.
Now look at what happened at Jesus' death:
(Matthew 27:50-51 NIV) [50] And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
[51] At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split.
[51] At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split.
The curtain that had kept everyone out was split from top to bottom, thereby opening up to everyone the presence of God. But that is not all that happened:
(Ephesians 4:8 NIV) This is why it says: "When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men."
Who were these captives and where were they? We need to look at some other things that Jesus said.
(Luke 23:43 NIV) Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
This is what Jesus said to the thief on the cross. But where is paradise or I should say; where was paradise. Again we can look at what Jesus said:
(Luke 16:19-31 NIV) [19] "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. [20] At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores [21] and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
[22] "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. [23] In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. [24] So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
[25] "But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
[27] "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, [28] for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
[29] "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
[30] "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
[31] "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
[22] "The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. [23] In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. [24] So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
[25] "But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. [26] And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'
[27] "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, [28] for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.'
[29] "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'
[30] "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.'
[31] "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
Now we know from extra-biblical Jewish writings, such as the Talmud, that the Jews believed that Hades had two compartments. One compartment was hell, where the unsaved went to await judgment. The second compartment was called both Abraham's bosom and paradise.
Now why would believers not go to heaven when they died? Why would they go to paradise? Because their sins had not yet been paid for. They were captives waiting for their redeemer to set them free. Going to heaven would have meant going into the presence of God and as we showed with the Holy of Holies no one was allowed to do that. But when Jesus paid for our sins, He opened the way to the presence of God. So the curtain was torn and He took those who were waiting in paradise to heaven to be with the Father.
So all those Old Testament Saints who had never heard of Jesus were taken to heaven and into God's presence through and by Jesus. Just as Jesus said, no one could come to the Father except through Him. So now we go back to the present. Since Jesus is the one who opened the way to God the Father, if God offers salvation to someone who has not heard the gospel because they placed their faith in Him, even though they did not understand the whole gospel, wouldn't it still be true that they got to the Father through Jesus Christ who opened the way? I believe that to be true.
That also brings me to the idea of those who are mentally ill or who are aborted as unborn babies, etc... They too have no way of hearing the gospel or understanding it, yet I believe that God is merciful and loving to them and will only judge them for what they do know not what they don't know. Now I will be the first one to say that with God anything is possible, so it is possible that God knows what decision they would have made if they had heard the gospel. I believe that is true of those in isolated countries who have never heard the gospel too. However, I think that if God did allow those who were mentally ill or killed before they reached the age of reason into heaven it would still be through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I don't claim to have all the answers, nor do I claim to speak for God, but I do think I understand His nature because He has showed it to us in His word. Therefore I believe my view is consistent with His nature and with Scripture. No matter what, I know that God is fair and loving to His creation.
MORE CHURCHES face FORECLOSURE
MORE CHURCHES face FORECLOSURE
MORE CHURCHES face FORECLOSURE
Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:36 AM
-by Electa Draper, The Denver Post.
A congregation losing its house of worship, once a rare event, is
now common in Colorado — part of a national trend of record
foreclosures on churches.
The real-estate information company CoStar Group looked at five
years of distressed church sales and found only a handful of
foreclosures nationwide prior to 2008, when the number jumped to
24. In 2009, the figure was 67.
CoStar Group spokeswoman Angela Brown said the market saw
a big spike in 2010 with 135 churches sold after a lender-initiated
foreclosure. In 2011, there were 138 such sales.
The states with the highest percentages of forced church sales
often were those with some of the worst home-foreclosure rates,
including California, Florida and Michigan.
In Colorado, church real-estate specialist Todd Whittaker, president
of Service Realty Inc. in Denver, says church foreclosures occur
with some regularity now... Other congregations are trying to sell
their buildings before it comes to that.
"We're pretty active, but it's because churches are struggling,"
Whittaker said. "Their offerings are way down. Churches need to
sell. We have 10 church listings in the Denver area, when normally
we have seven or eight, and they are moving slowly. Banks are
nervous about lending to churches right now... I don't see an end
to this any time soon."
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-by Electa Draper, The Denver Post.
A congregation losing its house of worship, once a rare event, is
now common in Colorado — part of a national trend of record
foreclosures on churches.
The real-estate information company CoStar Group looked at five
years of distressed church sales and found only a handful of
foreclosures nationwide prior to 2008, when the number jumped to
24. In 2009, the figure was 67.
CoStar Group spokeswoman Angela Brown said the market saw
a big spike in 2010 with 135 churches sold after a lender-initiated
foreclosure. In 2011, there were 138 such sales.
The states with the highest percentages of forced church sales
often were those with some of the worst home-foreclosure rates,
including California, Florida and Michigan.
In Colorado, church real-estate specialist Todd Whittaker, president
of Service Realty Inc. in Denver, says church foreclosures occur
with some regularity now... Other congregations are trying to sell
their buildings before it comes to that.
"We're pretty active, but it's because churches are struggling,"
Whittaker said. "Their offerings are way down. Churches need to
sell. We have 10 church listings in the Denver area, when normally
we have seven or eight, and they are moving slowly. Banks are
nervous about lending to churches right now... I don't see an end
to this any time soon."
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1968 PROPHECY from 90-YEAR-OLD WOMAN in NORWAY
PROPHECY from 90-YEAR-OLD WOMAN in NORWAY
Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:28 AM
An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God
in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services)
where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told
him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so
unbelievable that he put it in a drawer. After 30 years, he understood
he had to share the vision with others.
The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable, awake and
credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her.
This is what she saw:
"I saw the time just before the coming of Jesus and the outbreak
of the Third World War. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I
saw the world like a kind of a globe and saw Europe, land by land.
I saw Scandinavia. I saw Norway. I saw certain things that would
take place just before the return of Jesus, and just before the last
calamity happens, a calamity the likes of which we have never
before experienced.
She mentioned four waves:
1. "First before Jesus comes and before the Third World War
breaks out there will be a ‘détente’ like we have never had before.
There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the
west, and there will be a long peace. [Remember, that this was in
1968 when the cold war was at its highest. -E. Minos]. In this period
of peace there will be disarmament in many countries, also in
Norway and we are not prepared when it (the war) comes. The
Third World War will begin in a way no one would have anticipated -
and from an unexpected place.
2. "A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of the Christians,
a falling away from true, living Christianity. Christians will not be
open for penetrating preaching. They will not, like in earlier times,
want to hear of sin and grace, law and gospel, repentance and
restoration. There will come a substitute instead: prosperity
(happiness) Christianity.
"The important thing will be to have success, to be something; to
have material things, things that God never promised us in this way.
Churches and prayer houses will be emptier and emptier. Instead
of the preaching we have been used to for generations -like, to take
your cross up and follow Jesus, - entertainment, art and culture will
invade the churches where there should have been gatherings for
repentance and revival. This will increase markedly just before the
return of Jesus.
3. "There will be a moral disintegration that old Norway has never
experienced the likes of. People will live together like married
without being married. [I do not believe the concept ‘co-habitor’
existed in 1968 - E. Minos.] Much uncleanness before marriage,
and much infidelity in marriage will become the natural (the
common), and it will be justified from every angle. It will even enter
Christian circles and we pet it - even sin against nature. Just before
Jesus returns there will be TV- programs like we have never
experienced. [TV had just arrived in Norway in 1968. -E. Minos]
"TV will be filled with such horrible violence that it teaches people
to murder and destroy each other, and it will be unsafe in our
streets. People will copy what they see. There will not be only one
‘station’ on TV, it will be filled with ‘stations.’ [She did not know the
word ‘channel’ which we use today. Therefore she called them
stations. -E. Minos.] TV will be just like the radio where we have
many ‘stations,’ and it will be filled with violence. People will use
it for entertainment. We will see terrible scenes of murder and
destruction one of the other, and this will spread in society. Sex
scenes will also be shown on the screen, the most intimate things
that take place in a marriage." I prote[sted and said, we have a
paragraph that forbids this kind of thing. -E. Minos.] There the old
woman said: "It will happen, and you will see it. All we have had
before will be broken down, and the most indecent things will pass
before our eyes."
4. "People from poor countries will stream to Europe. [In 1968
there was no such thing as immigration. -E. Minos.] They will also
come to Scandinavia - and Norway. There will be so many of them
that people will begin to dislike them and become hard with them.
They will be treated like the Jews before the Second World War.
Then the full measure of our sins will have been reached [I
protested at the issue of immigration. I did not understand it at
the time. -E. Minos.]
The tears streamed from the old woman’s eyes down her cheeks.
"I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and
the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it
in the vision.)
"All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to
this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air
will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover
several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy
nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no
longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain.
The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor
countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.
"I am so glad that I will not see it, but when the time draws near,
you must take courage and tell this. I have received it from God,
and nothing of it goes against what the Bible tells.
"The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and
Lord, is safe."
WHEN the OIL FLOWS
An elder in the Pentecostal Church at Moss, Norway, Martin
Andersen, heard the following prophecy in 1937, in Moss:
‘When oil comes out of the North Sea and along the Norwegian
coast, things will begin to happen, and the return of Jesus is
approaching.’
When these words had been proclaimed, people stood up in the
congregation and asked the man to sit down and not speak such
nonsense. In 1937 it was indeed nonsense to talk about oil being
pumped along the Norwegian coast. Today all the world’s big oil
companies are pumping oil along the coast of Norway. Norway is
the world’s third greatest exporter of oil - after Saudi Arabia.
Original source editor’s note:
Because of my fear of transmitting false prophecy, I have diligently
inquired concerning the information in this letter. Publication has
been delayed until permission could be secured from Ragna [Von
Porat] in Israel. In my contact with her, she has assured me that
these accounts are true and reliable. In fact, she relates that the
first account has already been published in one of Norway’s
Christian newspapers.
I have found in my own research that the first account was also
published by the Christian Information Service in Germany. The
website of Dr. Emanuel Minos is active today and can be accessed
for verification. Although the language on this site is Norwegian, the
very similar story of the woman and her vision is posted there in
English. The above accounts are transmitted just as they were received.
Ragna took it upon herself to verify as much of the above
information as she could... Ragna states, "I certainly have no
objection to your going ahead [with publishing]. It must be now-if ever."
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Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:28 AM
An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God
in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services)
where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told
him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so
unbelievable that he put it in a drawer. After 30 years, he understood
he had to share the vision with others.
The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable, awake and
credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her.
This is what she saw:
"I saw the time just before the coming of Jesus and the outbreak
of the Third World War. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I
saw the world like a kind of a globe and saw Europe, land by land.
I saw Scandinavia. I saw Norway. I saw certain things that would
take place just before the return of Jesus, and just before the last
calamity happens, a calamity the likes of which we have never
before experienced.
She mentioned four waves:
1. "First before Jesus comes and before the Third World War
breaks out there will be a ‘détente’ like we have never had before.
There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the
west, and there will be a long peace. [Remember, that this was in
1968 when the cold war was at its highest. -E. Minos]. In this period
of peace there will be disarmament in many countries, also in
Norway and we are not prepared when it (the war) comes. The
Third World War will begin in a way no one would have anticipated -
and from an unexpected place.
2. "A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of the Christians,
a falling away from true, living Christianity. Christians will not be
open for penetrating preaching. They will not, like in earlier times,
want to hear of sin and grace, law and gospel, repentance and
restoration. There will come a substitute instead: prosperity
(happiness) Christianity.
"The important thing will be to have success, to be something; to
have material things, things that God never promised us in this way.
Churches and prayer houses will be emptier and emptier. Instead
of the preaching we have been used to for generations -like, to take
your cross up and follow Jesus, - entertainment, art and culture will
invade the churches where there should have been gatherings for
repentance and revival. This will increase markedly just before the
return of Jesus.
3. "There will be a moral disintegration that old Norway has never
experienced the likes of. People will live together like married
without being married. [I do not believe the concept ‘co-habitor’
existed in 1968 - E. Minos.] Much uncleanness before marriage,
and much infidelity in marriage will become the natural (the
common), and it will be justified from every angle. It will even enter
Christian circles and we pet it - even sin against nature. Just before
Jesus returns there will be TV- programs like we have never
experienced. [TV had just arrived in Norway in 1968. -E. Minos]
"TV will be filled with such horrible violence that it teaches people
to murder and destroy each other, and it will be unsafe in our
streets. People will copy what they see. There will not be only one
‘station’ on TV, it will be filled with ‘stations.’ [She did not know the
word ‘channel’ which we use today. Therefore she called them
stations. -E. Minos.] TV will be just like the radio where we have
many ‘stations,’ and it will be filled with violence. People will use
it for entertainment. We will see terrible scenes of murder and
destruction one of the other, and this will spread in society. Sex
scenes will also be shown on the screen, the most intimate things
that take place in a marriage." I prote[sted and said, we have a
paragraph that forbids this kind of thing. -E. Minos.] There the old
woman said: "It will happen, and you will see it. All we have had
before will be broken down, and the most indecent things will pass
before our eyes."
4. "People from poor countries will stream to Europe. [In 1968
there was no such thing as immigration. -E. Minos.] They will also
come to Scandinavia - and Norway. There will be so many of them
that people will begin to dislike them and become hard with them.
They will be treated like the Jews before the Second World War.
Then the full measure of our sins will have been reached [I
protested at the issue of immigration. I did not understand it at
the time. -E. Minos.]
The tears streamed from the old woman’s eyes down her cheeks.
"I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and
the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it
in the vision.)
"All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to
this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air
will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover
several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy
nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no
longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain.
The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor
countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.
"I am so glad that I will not see it, but when the time draws near,
you must take courage and tell this. I have received it from God,
and nothing of it goes against what the Bible tells.
"The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and
Lord, is safe."
WHEN the OIL FLOWS
An elder in the Pentecostal Church at Moss, Norway, Martin
Andersen, heard the following prophecy in 1937, in Moss:
‘When oil comes out of the North Sea and along the Norwegian
coast, things will begin to happen, and the return of Jesus is
approaching.’
When these words had been proclaimed, people stood up in the
congregation and asked the man to sit down and not speak such
nonsense. In 1937 it was indeed nonsense to talk about oil being
pumped along the Norwegian coast. Today all the world’s big oil
companies are pumping oil along the coast of Norway. Norway is
the world’s third greatest exporter of oil - after Saudi Arabia.
Original source editor’s note:
Because of my fear of transmitting false prophecy, I have diligently
inquired concerning the information in this letter. Publication has
been delayed until permission could be secured from Ragna [Von
Porat] in Israel. In my contact with her, she has assured me that
these accounts are true and reliable. In fact, she relates that the
first account has already been published in one of Norway’s
Christian newspapers.
I have found in my own research that the first account was also
published by the Christian Information Service in Germany. The
website of Dr. Emanuel Minos is active today and can be accessed
for verification. Although the language on this site is Norwegian, the
very similar story of the woman and her vision is posted there in
English. The above accounts are transmitted just as they were received.
Ragna took it upon herself to verify as much of the above
information as she could... Ragna states, "I certainly have no
objection to your going ahead [with publishing]. It must be now-if ever."
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Last Word of David Wilkerson before he died
Last Word of David Wilkerson before he died
ANDREW STROM: I got home from Papua New Guinea last night
to find that it was true what I had heard - that David Wilkerson had
been killed in a car crash and gone home to be with the Lord. Truly
a great man of God who will be sorely missed on this earth. One
of the few voices for Truth and Righteousness that had a global
reach in the modern church. We will miss you, David. Below is
his final Devotional that he sent out just before his death at age 79-
WHEN ALL MEANS FAIL
-David Wilkerson (Apr 27).
To believe when all means fail is exceedingly pleasing to God and
is most acceptable. Jesus said to Thomas, “You have believed
because you have seen, but blessed are those that do believe
and have not seen” (John 20:29).
Blessed are those who believe when there is no evidence of an
answer to prayer—who trust beyond hope when all means have failed.
Someone has come to the place of hopelessness—the end of
hope—the end of all means. A loved one is facing death and
doctors give no hope. Death seems inevitable. Hope is gone. The
miracle prayed for is not happening.
That is when Satan’s hordes come to attack your mind with fear,
anger, overwhelming questions: “Where is your God now? You
prayed until you had no tears left. You fasted. You stood on
promises. You trusted.”
Blasphemous thoughts will be injected into your mind: “Prayer failed.
Faith failed. Don’t quit on God—just do not trust him anymore. It
doesn’t pay!”
Even questioning God’s existence will be injected into your mind.
These have been the devices of Satan for centuries. Some of the
godliest men and women who ever lived were under such demonic
attacks.
To those going through the valley and shadow of death, hear this
word: Weeping will last through some dark, awful nights—and in
that darkness you will soon hear the Father whisper, “I am with
you. I cannot tell you why right now, but one day it will all make
sense. You will see it was all part of my plan. It was no accident.
It was no failure on your part. Hold fast. Let me embrace you in
your hour of pain.”
Beloved, God has never failed to act but in goodness and love.
When all means fail—his love prevails. Hold fast to your faith.
Stand fast in his Word. There is no other hope in this world.
-Please leave a comment on David Wilkerson's life and ministry at
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to find that it was true what I had heard - that David Wilkerson had
been killed in a car crash and gone home to be with the Lord. Truly
a great man of God who will be sorely missed on this earth. One
of the few voices for Truth and Righteousness that had a global
reach in the modern church. We will miss you, David. Below is
his final Devotional that he sent out just before his death at age 79-
WHEN ALL MEANS FAIL
-David Wilkerson (Apr 27).
To believe when all means fail is exceedingly pleasing to God and
is most acceptable. Jesus said to Thomas, “You have believed
because you have seen, but blessed are those that do believe
and have not seen” (John 20:29).
Blessed are those who believe when there is no evidence of an
answer to prayer—who trust beyond hope when all means have failed.
Someone has come to the place of hopelessness—the end of
hope—the end of all means. A loved one is facing death and
doctors give no hope. Death seems inevitable. Hope is gone. The
miracle prayed for is not happening.
That is when Satan’s hordes come to attack your mind with fear,
anger, overwhelming questions: “Where is your God now? You
prayed until you had no tears left. You fasted. You stood on
promises. You trusted.”
Blasphemous thoughts will be injected into your mind: “Prayer failed.
Faith failed. Don’t quit on God—just do not trust him anymore. It
doesn’t pay!”
Even questioning God’s existence will be injected into your mind.
These have been the devices of Satan for centuries. Some of the
godliest men and women who ever lived were under such demonic
attacks.
To those going through the valley and shadow of death, hear this
word: Weeping will last through some dark, awful nights—and in
that darkness you will soon hear the Father whisper, “I am with
you. I cannot tell you why right now, but one day it will all make
sense. You will see it was all part of my plan. It was no accident.
It was no failure on your part. Hold fast. Let me embrace you in
your hour of pain.”
Beloved, God has never failed to act but in goodness and love.
When all means fail—his love prevails. Hold fast to your faith.
Stand fast in his Word. There is no other hope in this world.
-Please leave a comment on David Wilkerson's life and ministry at
the following website-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
SOURCE-
http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/13112
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the devotional via e-mail, but all devotionals must be copied or
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Challenge, Inc. using our online contact form [
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"REFORMATION" - MORE RADICAL than YOU THINK!
"REFORMATION" - MORE RADICAL than YOU THINK!
"REFORMATION" - MORE RADICAL than YOU THINK!
-posted by Michelle (JTBTV Comments).
Out of interest I looked up "reform" in the concordance.
H3256
ya?sar
yaw-sar’
A primitive root; to chastise, literally (with blows) or figuratively
(with words); hence to instruct: – bind, chasten, chastise, correct,
instruct, punish, reform, reprove, sore, teach.
Lev 26:23-25- And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things,
but will walk contrary unto me; Then will I also walk contrary unto
you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. And I will
bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my
covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I
will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into
the hand of the enemy.
In the Greek:
G365
anane?oo?
an-an-neh-o’-o
From G303 and a derivative of G3501; to renovate, that is, reform:
– renew.
Eph 4:22-24- That ye put off concerning the former conversation
the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And
be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new
man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
"Revive" seems to indicate giving life to something that has become
dead. The west does not need a revival in the sense of giving life to
that which is totally depraved of the fear of God. It has strayed so
far off course of His precepts and Spirit, that it needs a reminder
of what happens when God is mocked.
The west needs a "reformation" that only the chastisement or
judgment of the Lord can bring.
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-posted by Michelle (JTBTV Comments).
Out of interest I looked up "reform" in the concordance.
H3256
ya?sar
yaw-sar’
A primitive root; to chastise, literally (with blows) or figuratively
(with words); hence to instruct: – bind, chasten, chastise, correct,
instruct, punish, reform, reprove, sore, teach.
Lev 26:23-25- And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things,
but will walk contrary unto me; Then will I also walk contrary unto
you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins. And I will
bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my
covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I
will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into
the hand of the enemy.
In the Greek:
G365
anane?oo?
an-an-neh-o’-o
From G303 and a derivative of G3501; to renovate, that is, reform:
– renew.
Eph 4:22-24- That ye put off concerning the former conversation
the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And
be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new
man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
"Revive" seems to indicate giving life to something that has become
dead. The west does not need a revival in the sense of giving life to
that which is totally depraved of the fear of God. It has strayed so
far off course of His precepts and Spirit, that it needs a reminder
of what happens when God is mocked.
The west needs a "reformation" that only the chastisement or
judgment of the Lord can bring.
-Your thoughts? -Please comment at the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
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